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I'm a housing specialist for chroniy homeless adults with severe and persistant mental illness. Prior to that I worked on a Community Support team for adults with severe and persistant MI transitioning out of jails and prisons. Before that I was a part time house manager in a group home for adults with severe and persistant mental illness while coordinating residential services for adults with severe and persitant mental illness. Getting the pattern here? Oh, and before that I worked in public education and legislative lobbying for the MI community. I didn't say you knew nothing, nor did I say you needed to present credentials to post on. You can build all the strawmen you like, but don't expect me to respond to them to deflect from my actual criticism. What I said was: stop speaking for me and stop pretending you're the only one who understands mental illness. And I think it's rather telling that encouraging someone to seek emergency help for someone who is refusing voluntary help is "bullshit." You've lived through suicidal ideation, I think it's great that you came out on the other side. But I've worked through these issues with hundreds of individuals over the years I've been in the business. Your personal experience as ONE person does not trump the professional experience of those of us who hear this story EVERY DAY. You are not the one true authority on MI and my professional advice is not "bullshit" simply because it conflicts with your personal advice. Leatha

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